Firefox is Evil!

re: Firefox is Evil!

Jason Bunting — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:09:25 GMT

Forgot I had come here and posted a comment. :P

First, in order to something is better than something else, you have to have some metric by which to judge it. For example, if we are talking about standards, IE fails. This isn't subjective, this is objective. It is a fact that IE's rendering engine is flawed based on standards, this isn't open to debate. There is a clear mark.

Second, your metric has nothing to do with my metric - I brought up developing software against IE, you brought up user experience; we can't have a useful conversation about a browser's merits if we are using two different metrics. You can't argue the subjectivity of user experience, but you can argue about how well a browser implements rendering based on standards.

By the way, the word you want to use is "whether" - there is no English word spelled "wither" with the meaning you intend, even though you keep using it in your blog posts that way.

By the way, I agree Microsoft does great things - I wouldn't be a .NET developer and run their OS if I didn't feel that way. That said, their browser continues to suck for standards-based JavaScript-heavy development.

re: Firefox is Evil!

Nathan Zaugg — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:50:41 GMT

I like Microsoft, but I think I stop short at fanboy. For example, I think Gmail is better than Live Mail. But I can't live without Gmail, Analytics, and especially Google Docs! One of my computers homepage is msn.com and the other is google.com.

I don’t like everything that Microsoft puts out but they are doing some really cool things and I think it's okay to be excited about that.

Stating that IE's rendering engine sucks isn't a very strong argument. Wither a browser is good or bad is going to be determined by a person’s experience with that browser and people have as many frustrating experiences with Firefox as they do with anything else. Some people think Safari is the best and I welcome their perspective.

I actually had a JavaScript bug in Firefox recently that has only been fixed with the upgrade to Firefox 3 (the reason I had to install it).

Stating that something *is* better than something else is the kind of narrow thinking that leads to unenlightened decisions.

re: Firefox is Evil!

Jason Bunting — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:01:48 GMT

FireFox *is* better than IE, I know from experience. Developing JavaScript-heavy websites in IE is an exercise in frustration because not only does the rendering engine suck, but the tool support for debugging and such is so laborious to use. Debugging JavaScript in Visual Studio is far more painful than staying *inside* FireFox with FireBug.

Think for *yourself* and stop being a Microsoft fanboy.

re: Firefox is Evil!

Nathan Zaugg — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:25:01 GMT

I have not tried to repeat but I am sure that any screen that said anything about making Firefox my default browser was quickly unchecked!

re: Firefox is Evil!

Jayson — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:55:34 GMT

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